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we have even published her own study on the deficit, copies of which are available here today. we look forward to continuing this conversation, keeping the dialogue ongoing over the next month and it's critical and we want to solve this problem and we think it will be very enlightening on what the issues are. with that i'm going to turn it over to you in the panel. thank you very much. >> can everybody hear? [inaudible] we do have an all-star panel. tim pawlenty the former governor of minnesota, i wrote that i thought he would have made the strongest presidential candidate. tim is now the head of the financial services roundtable, a job he took a month or two ago and he will be a huge player in washington. chris i have to say, first of all you kept two-thirds of your own district but your margins didn't go down at all. maybe a little bit. i know the county, one county represents for my son as and let's just say -- is a liberal but he did an incredible job. two senators now and on mars reminded when bob dole left the house to go to the senate, the single act -- [inaudible] bob c
we have even published her own study on the deficit, copies of which are available here today. we look forward to continuing this conversation, keeping the dialogue ongoing over the next month and it's critical and we want to solve this problem and we think it will be very enlightening on what the issues are. with that i'm going to turn it over to you in the panel. thank you very much. >> can everybody hear? [inaudible] we do have an all-star panel. tim pawlenty the former governor of...
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so you see on the one level at the abstract level, debt, deficit, fiscal cliff. there's an immediate transition been to the to do list, which is what they would like to see effort. finally, and interestingly with all of this battering that people have taken during this last few years of difficult economy, we gave voters, we will go through this question in detail, but we gave voters a choice. short term, solutions to fix the problem, our long-term visionary policies that will put us on the right track? interestingly enough at this point people are thinking longer-term. part of that restored optimism is different for different groups, but generally speaking people are looking for longer horizons. just quickly, the mood of the country, you see the track, the red truck, this long track. easy it is still 50% believe the country is on the wrong track but you see substantial improvement sends where we were in the middle, the late fall of 2011. so that's when it really bottomed out. 70% wrong track, that was around the time of the debt ceiling debate. only 33% of democr
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we needed more aggregate demand, deficit spending, we needed public worse an easy money policy. that is what the economy needed. i think our problem is we didn't get enough. >> eliot: it's fascinating you articulated this way. judge poser was an iconic voice within the chicago school of economic supply. he went through the same transformation saying different circumstances call for different responses. you don't disavow of word of margenal rates. >> that's exactly right. i don't understand this idea of cocky cutter economics where you simply do the same thing regardless of circumstances. you analyze the data, look at the economy, you come up with policies that are appropriate. >> eliot: now, you have been a rather harsh critic of the way the second president bush ran the economy basically saying he disa vowed principles and put in place massive spending without caring about deficits at all. you were there. what happened as you saw this and did you push back? >> oh, yes i wrote a book called imposter, president bush destroyed the economy. which got me fired from my think tank job
we needed more aggregate demand, deficit spending, we needed public worse an easy money policy. that is what the economy needed. i think our problem is we didn't get enough. >> eliot: it's fascinating you articulated this way. judge poser was an iconic voice within the chicago school of economic supply. he went through the same transformation saying different circumstances call for different responses. you don't disavow of word of margenal rates. >> that's exactly right. i don't...
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. >> the plan to reduce the deficit with bill clinton former chief of staff. those are your 5@5:30. doug luzader is life in washington with more. >> good morning, guys. we are looking for an important report coming out today. the expectation is -- first of all talking about unemployment. we know they fell. but the expectation today is that the unemployment rate will probably be unchanged which means it is stuck at about 7.9 percent. as far as the markets are concerned they are not exactly tanking but there is a lot of uncertainty. businesses and investors are unsure about what their tax burdens will be like this year. the impact that the fiscal cliff could have on the economy will go up across the board. >> as we get closer and closer to the end of the year i think the uneasiness will continue and the worry we might not see a resolution is going to effect our market. >> it has an impact or hiring as well. physical we go over the cliff the long-term benefits will in fact expire at the end of the year. as the president visited a family in virginia to talk about tax hikes on the wealth
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years ago, two and a half years ago, you are aproasmed to chaiapproached tochair a commits to set up a deficit reduction plan for the country. you study it. you're very diligent. everybody hates it within 24 hours. the democrats say it's too austere. the republicans say you're raising tax too much. two years later as we stand on the precipiceave cliff, suddenly this plan as seen as the mosterably thing in town and people are coming to you to find out your sage advice. what happened in those two years? >> well, the people woke up. i think young people are waking up. you can't do this. you can't tax your way out of this hole. you can't grow your way out of this hole. we had every economist say you could have double-digit growth for 20 years and can't get out of the hole. you can't cut spending out of your hole. we got five democrats, five republicans, ranging from dick durbin to illinois-- great progressive democrat-- and coburn from oklahoma, and five dems, five republicans, one independent, that's a super majority. and for god's sake the reason we were so successful is that we effectively piss
years ago, two and a half years ago, you are aproasmed to chaiapproached tochair a commits to set up a deficit reduction plan for the country. you study it. you're very diligent. everybody hates it within 24 hours. the democrats say it's too austere. the republicans say you're raising tax too much. two years later as we stand on the precipiceave cliff, suddenly this plan as seen as the mosterably thing in town and people are coming to you to find out your sage advice. what happened in those two...
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you want to talk about the deficit roger robert you know you. get my figure. back robert you know and the wall street and the people in wall street are all the . you know the bankers than all greater well i absolutely agree with you robert and very much appreciate you raising the topic i had senator sanders on a radio show last week and he's and he's saying you know the banks just crashed the economy why not have the banks pay for it and there's a number of number of people saying this it's you know pretty pretty obvious the banks just crashed the economy if we simply put eight point two five percent or even a point one percent tax on every stock transactions called a security security transaction excise tax stepped excess t.-t. is what they used to be called abraham lincoln put it on track stock trades to help pay for the for the civil war then then it went away through the through the gilded age and then in one thousand nine hundred eight one thousand nine hundred eight the mckinley administration put it back into place to pay for the spanish-american war it
you want to talk about the deficit roger robert you know you. get my figure. back robert you know and the wall street and the people in wall street are all the . you know the bankers than all greater well i absolutely agree with you robert and very much appreciate you raising the topic i had senator sanders on a radio show last week and he's and he's saying you know the banks just crashed the economy why not have the banks pay for it and there's a number of number of people saying this it's you...
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the so-called fiscal cliff for a year but has yet to come up with a plan that actually reduces our deficit. i'm willing to work with anyone to put a plan on the table, but we're not willing to negotiate with someone who hasn't put a plan on the table. the president has not put a serious plan on the table. >> as far as a compromise on the marginal tax rate 35% going up let's say 36% or 37%, is that acceptable? >> no. no. because marginal tax rate increases if there is any increase in revenue, just gives them more to play with on capitol hill and more to spend. when we talk about fairness, when the top 2%, the $250,000 and above are already paying 45% of total income tax, that's a big question of fairness there too. >> who should nicki haley name to replace you? >> i talk today her today. i share the same philosophy, the conservative philosophy. i told her i trust her decision and i'm not going to push her one way or another. >> a lot of speculation, congressman scott? >> he's a wonderful person. our whole delegation is really strong. she's got a tough choice, but i'm convinced she'll give m
the so-called fiscal cliff for a year but has yet to come up with a plan that actually reduces our deficit. i'm willing to work with anyone to put a plan on the table, but we're not willing to negotiate with someone who hasn't put a plan on the table. the president has not put a serious plan on the table. >> as far as a compromise on the marginal tax rate 35% going up let's say 36% or 37%, is that acceptable? >> no. no. because marginal tax rate increases if there is any increase in...
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the fact is that social security doesn't add one penny to the deficit or the debt. let's get the facts straight on this. we've been looking at these entitlements, scrutinizing them. we've had bipartisan changes to social security to make it sustainable. we can do that again. don't blame social security and medicare for our problems. i would say a major part of the problem is health care expenses, and i think the affordable health care bill attacked that issue particularly. if we don't lower health care costs, we are not going to get the budget in balance regardless of what we do. >> we have below you daishg you can't see it. a new poll was taken. a majority didn't want to see cuts in medicaid and didn't want the eligibility age increase for medicare. >> you're absolutely right. you put more burden on the states. right now the states are struggling to keep their head above water as it is. if you put that burden on the states, then they are going to move accordingly to the towns and their taxpayers in that particular state. in my state of new jersey, we pay an exorbit
the fact is that social security doesn't add one penny to the deficit or the debt. let's get the facts straight on this. we've been looking at these entitlements, scrutinizing them. we've had bipartisan changes to social security to make it sustainable. we can do that again. don't blame social security and medicare for our problems. i would say a major part of the problem is health care expenses, and i think the affordable health care bill attacked that issue particularly. if we don't lower...
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marchese said tax increases are necessary to reduce the deficit. senator bob casey of pennsylvania chaired the hearing. >> the committee will come to order. we want to thank everyone for being here today. i did not have a chance to personally greet our witnesses, but i will have time to do that later. i want to thank both of our witnesses for being here. i will have an opening statement that i will make, and then i will turn it to dr. burgess. i know that vice chairman brady will be her as well. we know the challenges that we confront here in congress on a whole range of issues which are sometimes broadly described under the umbrella of the terminology, fiscal cliff -- when we confront those difficult challenges, we have to ask ourselves a couple of basic questions. one of the basic questions we must ask is, what will be the result and will be the impact as it relates to middle income families? what will happen to them in the midst of all these tough issues we have to work out? we know there is broad agreement that going over the so-called fiscal c
marchese said tax increases are necessary to reduce the deficit. senator bob casey of pennsylvania chaired the hearing. >> the committee will come to order. we want to thank everyone for being here today. i did not have a chance to personally greet our witnesses, but i will have time to do that later. i want to thank both of our witnesses for being here. i will have an opening statement that i will make, and then i will turn it to dr. burgess. i know that vice chairman brady will be her...
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as it stand today, ow deficit and debt are unsustainable. last year we ran a budget deficit of well over $1 trillion and we now have a national debt that exceeds $16 trillion. if we don't get these numbers under control, interesting payments will inevitably skyrocket, taking up a larger and larger percentage of our budget, until they crowd out other critical pro-growth investments in our country's competitiveness and the essential social safety net that puts a circle of protection around the most vulnerable in our country. and, madam president, i don't believe either one of us wants to put those two vital things at risk venal whe. when the budget is so out of rick, we have to take a look at the money coming in and going out of the only way to get back on track is to address both sides of the equation -- revenue and spending. we have to find a balanced solution that combines tough spending cuts with reforms to our tax code that bring in more revenue while also ensuring fairness to taxpayers. there is, madam president, real momentum, i believe
as it stand today, ow deficit and debt are unsustainable. last year we ran a budget deficit of well over $1 trillion and we now have a national debt that exceeds $16 trillion. if we don't get these numbers under control, interesting payments will inevitably skyrocket, taking up a larger and larger percentage of our budget, until they crowd out other critical pro-growth investments in our country's competitiveness and the essential social safety net that puts a circle of protection around the...
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so you've heard discussions about deficit reduction over the years and tax policy. guest: yeah. host: we always seem to focus on the out years. when it comes to a lot of these issues. do the out years ever come about or does policy get changed before any real cuts are made? guest: so that they are pushing -- they're delaying the pain is what you're saying and they'll come back and -- yeah. that has occurred, the very famous one is the doc fix. i'm sure you're familiar with. they back in the 1990's reduced payments to doctors through medicare and then decided that wasn't such a good idea after doctors said, we don't like that. and so now just like these tax extenders occur every year or every two years they do a doc fix where they make sure that the docs get paid as they had before. but they don't do that permanently. they just do it on a year by year basis because it looks better that way maybe or they just feel like maybe one day we'll come up with a long-term solution that threads the needle. but it's an issue but on the other hand, sure, they've been able to reduce the defici
so you've heard discussions about deficit reduction over the years and tax policy. guest: yeah. host: we always seem to focus on the out years. when it comes to a lot of these issues. do the out years ever come about or does policy get changed before any real cuts are made? guest: so that they are pushing -- they're delaying the pain is what you're saying and they'll come back and -- yeah. that has occurred, the very famous one is the doc fix. i'm sure you're familiar with. they back in the...
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that's a drop in the bucket compared to our $16 trillion debt, trillion dollar deficit. what a lot of people are saying and arguing when they look at this situation is if you're really going to be serious about deficit reduction it can't just be about taxes. it has to be about spending cuts, too. >> on that point of spending it's always important to remember where do we spend money in the federal budget? you put together to remind us where we spend the most of the money. >> the bulk of our money is going to entitlement programs like social security medicare medicaid medicaid. that's mandatory spending that's been budgeted based off what we spend on our taxes. the bulk of it is going there. 20% is going to defense. discretionary spending is 13% and 7% the interest we are paying on our debt. that's also mandatory and we have to make good on our debt. >> which is why anybody serious about the debt says you have to look at entitlements based on that. where are the areas for compromise? >> so when you look at where they're talking about cutting spending, it's in the discretio
that's a drop in the bucket compared to our $16 trillion debt, trillion dollar deficit. what a lot of people are saying and arguing when they look at this situation is if you're really going to be serious about deficit reduction it can't just be about taxes. it has to be about spending cuts, too. >> on that point of spending it's always important to remember where do we spend money in the federal budget? you put together to remind us where we spend the most of the money. >> the bulk...
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if you're really going to be serious about deficit reduction, it can't just be about taxes. it has to be about spending cuts, too. >> prince william and wife catherine is out of the hospital after being admitted for acute morning sickness. >> told the hospital stay would last at few days and that's exactly what it turned out to be. >>> software executive john mcafee no longer a fugitive. arre arrested after his neighbor was murdered. >> police didn't know where he was. >> now that marijuana is legal here in washington, the state will going to start cleshgting taxes on it. >> gangnam style. >> there is no one in political life funnier than alan simpson. >> mayor michael bloomberg announced new york will hold a contest to redesign the city's pay phones. now, a brand new -- >> "eye-opener" at 8:00 is brought to you by the aarp. >>> i'm charlie rose with gayle king and norah o'donnell. this morning, prince william's wife catherine is back home in london after three days in the hospital. >> the pregnant duchess of cambridge was being treated for an acute form of morning sickness.
if you're really going to be serious about deficit reduction, it can't just be about taxes. it has to be about spending cuts, too. >> prince william and wife catherine is out of the hospital after being admitted for acute morning sickness. >> told the hospital stay would last at few days and that's exactly what it turned out to be. >>> software executive john mcafee no longer a fugitive. arre arrested after his neighbor was murdered. >> police didn't know where he...
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then we get deficit reduction and it's a lot easier to do. i think the number is just enough, as i said, but it's still hard to get to. and it's going to require the business community coming in and saying to republicans in both the senate and the house, there's a lot of stuff in here we don't like, a lot of special interests won't like it, but the business community at large, particularly big business, saying this needs to get done and needs to get done before new year's eve. >> just do it. >> just do it. all right. >> all right. >> failure is not an option. >> it's not. it really isn't. >>> hillary clinton may insist she's leaving politics, but a new poll shows the majority of americans hoping she has a change of heart. the latest abc news/"washington post" poll shows 57% would vote for clinton in a 2016 presidential bid. 37% oppose of a potential campaign. clinton also has strong support in her home state of new york. in a siena college poll, 64% of new york voters say she should make a run, but new yorkers aren't as enthusiastic about the
then we get deficit reduction and it's a lot easier to do. i think the number is just enough, as i said, but it's still hard to get to. and it's going to require the business community coming in and saying to republicans in both the senate and the house, there's a lot of stuff in here we don't like, a lot of special interests won't like it, but the business community at large, particularly big business, saying this needs to get done and needs to get done before new year's eve. >> just do...
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a trade deficit that grew from $83 billion in 2001 to $295 billion in 2011, a deficit in auto parts alone that went from about $1 billion a decade ago to about $10 billion today. more recently, though, president obama stood up on china issues, on steel, which led to a new steel mill in youngstown, ohio, more steel jobs in cleveland and lorain, ohio, on tires which translated into more jobs in findlay, ohio. and also on aluminum, which meant more jobs. but our experience with china proves we must more closely monitor our trade partners' commitments before workers are injured by him. russia committed to lower tariffs on manufactured goods to ensure predictability by capping quota levels and to meet international standards on intellectual property rights. i'm pleased to see the legislation extending russia pntr includes enforcement measures much stronger than china pntr. several based on legislation i introduced earlier this year. by requiring u.s. trade representative to monitor russia's compliance with its w.t.o. obstacles, to publish an annual report to promote compliance and to establish
a trade deficit that grew from $83 billion in 2001 to $295 billion in 2011, a deficit in auto parts alone that went from about $1 billion a decade ago to about $10 billion today. more recently, though, president obama stood up on china issues, on steel, which led to a new steel mill in youngstown, ohio, more steel jobs in cleveland and lorain, ohio, on tires which translated into more jobs in findlay, ohio. and also on aluminum, which meant more jobs. but our experience with china proves we...
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you can look at -- >> i agree. >> stephanie: tax cuts proveably caused these deficits. the social security does not -- doesn't add a cent to the deficit. >> i ran on this in a conservative district very clearly stated my position that i did not want to. i had to last time when the president asked us to, to extend all of the taxes for one year and that was a darn bitter pill for me to swallow. i was one of the democrats that voted on to get it through. i'm not going to do it again. it doesn't add to the economy and those top 2 don't need to get done. we all do agree on the bottom ones and i just -- i think now they've got themselves in a pretty tight box. i hope you keep beating the drum on this. >> stephanie: i think you're a helper. you're giving them an out. >> always the helpful teacher. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: representative tim walz of the great state of representative, thank you. talk to you soon. >> thank you. >> stephanie: you know what he is? he's someone who gets it done. brought to you by granger. >> oh, my god! >> stephanie: that's right. with over 900,00
you can look at -- >> i agree. >> stephanie: tax cuts proveably caused these deficits. the social security does not -- doesn't add a cent to the deficit. >> i ran on this in a conservative district very clearly stated my position that i did not want to. i had to last time when the president asked us to, to extend all of the taxes for one year and that was a darn bitter pill for me to swallow. i was one of the democrats that voted on to get it through. i'm not going to do it...
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we went into deficits, deficits as far as the eye could see. deeper and deeper in debt. so you might ask, then, "senator boxer, why are you now supporting those tax cuts being renewed for 98% of the people?" and the answer is, it's a different time and a different place. we're getting out of a recession and we can make up the moneys we need to balance this budget by going just to the top rate, going to the people over $250,000. remember, this plan that we passed in july -- if we could go back to that chart -- that gives a tax break on the first $250,000 of income. and, in essence, giving everybody a tax break on that first $250,000. it's only after that that the taxes go back to clinton era. and because this is a different time and place, i support giving a tax break, continuing it for 98%, but asking the wealthiest to pay their fair share for the greatest country on the face of this earth. my father was born into dire poverty. he was the only one of nine children born in america. he was the only one of nine children to go to college at night in your great state, madam p
we went into deficits, deficits as far as the eye could see. deeper and deeper in debt. so you might ask, then, "senator boxer, why are you now supporting those tax cuts being renewed for 98% of the people?" and the answer is, it's a different time and a different place. we're getting out of a recession and we can make up the moneys we need to balance this budget by going just to the top rate, going to the people over $250,000. remember, this plan that we passed in july -- if we could...
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this will congressman goes back to 1984. >> social security has nothingto to do with the deficit. social security is totally funded by the payroll tax levied on employer and employee. if you reduce the outgo of social security, that money would not go into the general fund to reduce a deficit. it would go into the social security trust fund. so social security has nothing to do with balancing a budget or erasing or lowering the deficit. >> ronald reagan's debate with walter mondale in 1984. >> i call it selective fawning. they love to quote ronald reagan but when he says something sensible, they disassociate. he is absolutely correct. one of the things the boehner proposal does is reduces social security benefits so if you are making a billion dollars, you get your tax cut but if you are an 85-year-old social security recipient, you get a social security cut. how is that fair? >> if only they would listen to ronald reagan and raise taxes when necessary and get their grum -- grimey hands off social security, we would all be better off. congressman steve israel, you are doing a grea
this will congressman goes back to 1984. >> social security has nothingto to do with the deficit. social security is totally funded by the payroll tax levied on employer and employee. if you reduce the outgo of social security, that money would not go into the general fund to reduce a deficit. it would go into the social security trust fund. so social security has nothing to do with balancing a budget or erasing or lowering the deficit. >> ronald reagan's debate with walter mondale...
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but you've got to be committed to some kind of real deficit reduction. and that's where, beyond the spending, being serious about entitlements, there's got to at least be some framework that says, look, we are going to reduce the size and the scope of government. and that's -- finding that pain point on both sides so it's not a lopsided deal will at least give republicans the room to argue, look, we can take this pain. we've won some concessions back, but we have to do this. >> that should be done in private and together. >> and again, though, the ratio between tax increases to spending cuts is a wide, wide gap. medicare and medicaid and social security together, taken with interest and the debt, that's consuming every dime that's coming into washington, d.c., right now. people talk about -- democrats have talked about for a decade, the bush tax cuts. they've driven up the national debt. fine. if that's the case, why is it that the president, as you've said earlier, is embracing 98% of the bush tax cuts? >> except that isn't true. >> of course it's not t
but you've got to be committed to some kind of real deficit reduction. and that's where, beyond the spending, being serious about entitlements, there's got to at least be some framework that says, look, we are going to reduce the size and the scope of government. and that's -- finding that pain point on both sides so it's not a lopsided deal will at least give republicans the room to argue, look, we can take this pain. we've won some concessions back, but we have to do this. >> that...
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of the negotiations with congressional republicans over the bush tax cuts and the stimulus and the deficit. this president seems to have a thick skin if letting bygones be bygones does not come naturally to him as a man, he is doing a convincing job as a president. getting the business community to be message multipliers and supporters of his on basic economic issues. it makes sense. what about accountability? and here's what i mean. the big business guys who really, really really wanted president mitt romney. they spent through the roof to get president mitt romney and they lost. they did not get a president romney. they still have a president obama. but now they're at the president obama white house almost every week meeting with president obama. and i unde t a i underst what ab the f all this face time with president. does t i we're tol elizabe mas sea committ them on board with his agenda, particularly for his side of the negotiations with congressional republicans over the bush tax cuts and the stimulus and the deficit. this president seems to have a thick skin if letting bygones be b
of the negotiations with congressional republicans over the bush tax cuts and the stimulus and the deficit. this president seems to have a thick skin if letting bygones be bygones does not come naturally to him as a man, he is doing a convincing job as a president. getting the business community to be message multipliers and supporters of his on basic economic issues. it makes sense. what about accountability? and here's what i mean. the big business guys who really, really really wanted...
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we were very concerned because we thought the budget was going to be -- the deficit was going to be about $150 billion. that shocked everyone into action. then, unlike now, there remains some degree of bipartisanship. there was comity, there was discussion, even as we battled over the budget, we worked together in a bipartisan way on many other issues. you didn't have the total polarization that you have today. >> i mean, when you were elected senate majority leader, i understand one of the first people that you called was the minority leader, senator dole. >> that's right. i called him right away, i went to see him almost immediately, and i said to him look, you've been here a long time, i'm relatively new, these are very tough jobs in the best of circumstances, and if we don't have some degree of trust between us, they will be impossible jobs. so i said to him i want to tell you how i intend to behave toward you and to ask that you behave towards me in the same way. and we agreed on the most basic of things. i told him i would not surprise him, that's important in the senate. that he wo
we were very concerned because we thought the budget was going to be -- the deficit was going to be about $150 billion. that shocked everyone into action. then, unlike now, there remains some degree of bipartisanship. there was comity, there was discussion, even as we battled over the budget, we worked together in a bipartisan way on many other issues. you didn't have the total polarization that you have today. >> i mean, when you were elected senate majority leader, i understand one of...
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does it reduce the deficit? >> joining me now is senator sherrod brown. senator, good to have you with us tonight. your comments on what nancy pelosi has to say about revenue. >> she's right. you look at a little history in the 1990s. the upper one or 2 or 5% were paying more in taxes. just a little bit more. we had 21 million private sector job creation, net job creation. when george bush cut taxes on the wealthy in 2001 and 2003, we've had no real job growth and no wage growth during this past decade. we're finally now after ten straight years of manufacturing job decline hitting places like toledo and cleveland and cincinnati particularly hard, we're seeing now in the last two years after the auto rescue, after we're doing some of the right things here, we're seeing job growth. i agree with what nancy pelosi said. history improves itself. >> so based on history, this is about math and not ideology. the sense i get on the hill today, if you don't get the rate increase, you can forget everything else. >> we have seen in this country a decline in infrastr
does it reduce the deficit? >> joining me now is senator sherrod brown. senator, good to have you with us tonight. your comments on what nancy pelosi has to say about revenue. >> she's right. you look at a little history in the 1990s. the upper one or 2 or 5% were paying more in taxes. just a little bit more. we had 21 million private sector job creation, net job creation. when george bush cut taxes on the wealthy in 2001 and 2003, we've had no real job growth and no wage growth...
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of the negotiations with congressional republicans over the bush tax cuts and the stimulus and the deficit. this president seems to have a thick skin if letting bygones be bygones does not come naturally to him as a man, he is doing a convincing job as a president. getting the business community to be message multipliers and supporters of his on basic economic issues. it makes sense. what about accountability? and here's what i mean. the big business guys who really, really really wanted president mitt romney. they spent through the roof to
of the negotiations with congressional republicans over the bush tax cuts and the stimulus and the deficit. this president seems to have a thick skin if letting bygones be bygones does not come naturally to him as a man, he is doing a convincing job as a president. getting the business community to be message multipliers and supporters of his on basic economic issues. it makes sense. what about accountability? and here's what i mean. the big business guys who really, really really wanted...
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when i see a full deck of cards, that includes those participating in deficit reduction. it must be used over time and they can make very significant changes in the budget and do it in a way that does not damage our security. doing it abruptly as the fiscal cliff does, or any timeframe, it is not only inefficient, i think it endangers our security and our wrists. my final point is that missing element is primarily political will and i say that in regard to both political parties and the solution. the solution has to be forthcoming in the weeks ahead in the months ahead require our leaders and put our nation first. that has to be the primary focus of our political leadership. to put the interest of our country first. thank you for your leadership, thank you as well mike mullen. it is also a great privilege to be here with john warren and mr. isaac skelton. ,. >> thank you. thank you for putting this effort together. we thank admiral mike mullen, whose efforts have been outstanding for this effort. the late barbara -- barbara tuchman wrote a book entitled "march of folly."
when i see a full deck of cards, that includes those participating in deficit reduction. it must be used over time and they can make very significant changes in the budget and do it in a way that does not damage our security. doing it abruptly as the fiscal cliff does, or any timeframe, it is not only inefficient, i think it endangers our security and our wrists. my final point is that missing element is primarily political will and i say that in regard to both political parties and the...
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drivers of the debt and deficit. they need to ring something out of the white house on that side of the equation. >> one thing to understand, when we hear the president say rates have to go up. there is no other way to make this work. this is a purely political statement, it has nothing to do with economics. his own commission, the debt reduction commission he pinted identified $1.1 trillion of what are called the tax expenditures. meaning loopholes and deductions out there. available every year. so over a decade that is $11 trillion of available revenues without raising rates. so all you need to do is get less than one in ten of the dollars. one in ten. you've got a $1 trillion in raised revenues without raising rates. the only reason the president insists on raising rates is because he knows it will destroy the republican unity. it will cause a complete fracture of the republican majority in the house. it will hand him a congress that he can then manipulate for the next two years at least. because the republicans w
drivers of the debt and deficit. they need to ring something out of the white house on that side of the equation. >> one thing to understand, when we hear the president say rates have to go up. there is no other way to make this work. this is a purely political statement, it has nothing to do with economics. his own commission, the debt reduction commission he pinted identified $1.1 trillion of what are called the tax expenditures. meaning loopholes and deductions out there. available...
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reduction, support adding to the deficit with high-end tax cuts. in rhode island at least, those are lousy priorities when it comes to deficit reduction. we should let the tax cuts at the top expire for reasons also of fairness. loopholes and special provisions allow many super high income earners to pay lower tax rates than many middle-class families. according to the nonpartisan congressional research service, 65% of individuals earning a million dollars or more annually pay taxes at a lower rate than median income taxpayers making $100,000 or less. 65%, nearly two-thirds, of individuals earning over a million dollars a year actually pay a lower tax rate than median income taxpayers do. that is a tax system that has turned upside-down and needs to be fixed. earlier this year, a majority of senators voted to advance my "paying a fair share act," the buffett rule bill to ensure that multimillionaire earners pay at least a 30% effective federal tax ray. the rate they're supposed to pay is 35% under the income tax laws but because of all these loopho
reduction, support adding to the deficit with high-end tax cuts. in rhode island at least, those are lousy priorities when it comes to deficit reduction. we should let the tax cuts at the top expire for reasons also of fairness. loopholes and special provisions allow many super high income earners to pay lower tax rates than many middle-class families. according to the nonpartisan congressional research service, 65% of individuals earning a million dollars or more annually pay taxes at a lower...
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and he ran on a plan by saying that those savings would then be aplayed to deficit -- applied to deficit reduction, which we know is so critical. and we saw what people thought about that. he was reelected by a wide margin. the american people want us to come together, to work together in a bipartisan way to reduce the deficit, and they support the approach that starts by making sure that middle-class families are not once again asked to pay for the full burden of what needs to be done. they support an effort that says, extend tax cuts for middle-class families and ask those at the very top, who have gotten extra tax cuts, to forego those and chip in to be part of the larger deficit reduction solution. unfortunately, yesterday, speaker boehner ignored this when he offered a republican counterproposal to the president's proposal that would essentially raise taxes on middle-class families and cut medicare for our senior citizens. as senator reid said yesterday, it flunks the test of balance. to get the kind of revenue to reduce the deficit that is needed, and that we all agree on has to be
and he ran on a plan by saying that those savings would then be aplayed to deficit -- applied to deficit reduction, which we know is so critical. and we saw what people thought about that. he was reelected by a wide margin. the american people want us to come together, to work together in a bipartisan way to reduce the deficit, and they support the approach that starts by making sure that middle-class families are not once again asked to pay for the full burden of what needs to be done. they...
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situation with respect to our deficit and debt is a national security liability. we need our senior leadership. we need a senior leadership to take it on. we have an opportunity to do so. we have a requirement to do so. at the foundation of national power is ultimately economic comment and in terms of global influence, in terms of the ability to support a military, the economic is foundation. and we have i think the united states, both an opportunity to require it to get our house in order, and i believe that our 100 senators and members of the house will step up on this and sufficient majority in the coming months. >> how do you look at your surplus of the u.s.? does that say we have america under our control? >> we are one of the closest allies of the united states. so of course our position today to united states is very, very decisive, strengthen our relationship. so these are not, there is no intention for us to try to use this kind of economic relationship in different context. so we are very satisfied with the current relationship with the united states. th
situation with respect to our deficit and debt is a national security liability. we need our senior leadership. we need a senior leadership to take it on. we have an opportunity to do so. we have a requirement to do so. at the foundation of national power is ultimately economic comment and in terms of global influence, in terms of the ability to support a military, the economic is foundation. and we have i think the united states, both an opportunity to require it to get our house in order, and...
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social security has not contributed to the deficit. social security should not be on the table. these guys hate social security so much, they want to get rid of social security and medicare so much that everything they put forward has to have cuts in medicare and social security. so that's a nonstarter. the president has said he's not going to touch social security. the president said he's not going to raise the eligibility age for medicare. and the president has also said jay carney said it again yesterday, he's not even going to consider any bill that continues tax rates for the wealthiest of americans. >> he will not sign an extension of the bush era tax cuts for the top 2%. full stop. >> bill: full stop. >> this is what i don't get about this. this is not some new idea. this is not something that obama is you know, pulling out of the clear blue sky. it is something he ran on. this is what the election was about. >> bill: and the people voting. >> overwhelmingly. >> bill: we have to go back to the beginning. these tax cuts were enacted by george w. bush in 2001. still a bad i
social security has not contributed to the deficit. social security should not be on the table. these guys hate social security so much, they want to get rid of social security and medicare so much that everything they put forward has to have cuts in medicare and social security. so that's a nonstarter. the president has said he's not going to touch social security. the president said he's not going to raise the eligibility age for medicare. and the president has also said jay carney said it...
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. >> greta: when you became governor, you inherented a in--d a deficit. do you remember what it was? >> yes. the day before the election, the general election, it was $250 million. >> greta: million? >> uh-huh. keep in mind, the state budget is only 5.6 billion, so the day before the general election we were having it reported as $250 million. the day after the election it came $450 million. >> greta: what happened in those 24 or 48 hours? >> certainly the administration that was in place was not being truthful with the public, and so the day after i certainly was informed that the deficit was much bigger. >> greta: how does that happen? weren't the figures public? i mean, i assume that people were following and reporting on governor richardson as a steward of the economy here. >> no. that was not what was happening. when was coming out -- what was coming out of the governor's office were figures that were not being honest with the people. >> greta: you must have just about fallen over when you saw the number jump in a period of 24 or 48 hours. >> absolut
. >> greta: when you became governor, you inherented a in--d a deficit. do you remember what it was? >> yes. the day before the election, the general election, it was $250 million. >> greta: million? >> uh-huh. keep in mind, the state budget is only 5.6 billion, so the day before the general election we were having it reported as $250 million. the day after the election it came $450 million. >> greta: what happened in those 24 or 48 hours? >> certainly the...
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the goal is not to get rid of the budget deficit. i don't think anyone who's involved in this process has a realistic hope of getting rid of the budget deficit. that they would love to get it down to a manageable level. when you talk about that, certainly opinions differ. you can make a big, big dent in the unmanageable part of the deficit with closing or reducing loopholes. >> host: do you expect to see them play a role in negotiation and talks? you mention how there is a group advocating for everyone of these deductions, people are used to getting them. could they end up on the chopping block? >> guest: they are on the table. republicans put them on the table and say we'd rather do this. but rather get rid of tax breaks that raise rates. in the end, you probably will see some of those. this is a process that will go on for the better part of the year. said during the process of negotiating a deal, you'll see some of those. >> host: john mckinnon is a reporter for "the wall street journal." we are talking about tax loopholes and ded
the goal is not to get rid of the budget deficit. i don't think anyone who's involved in this process has a realistic hope of getting rid of the budget deficit. that they would love to get it down to a manageable level. when you talk about that, certainly opinions differ. you can make a big, big dent in the unmanageable part of the deficit with closing or reducing loopholes. >> host: do you expect to see them play a role in negotiation and talks? you mention how there is a group...
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it wasn't a secret he thought we should have a balanced approach to look at the deficit and higher income individuals need to pay more. if we don't ask, everybody else is hit harder. the president is coming off a victory, and it's very clear that on this specific issue the overwhelming majority of the american people support him. so that's a big difference. as we come to the end of this fiscal cliff, republicans have to choose. do they call for $5 trillion in tax increases over the next ten years or are they going to allow the middle class tax cuts to proceed? that's their choice, and i think people like tom cole recognize that it's unsustainable to take the position that nobody gets tax relief because they hold out for folks with 250,000 and over to get this extra tax cut on the portion of their income above 250,000. after all, what the president is saying on that part of your income above 250,000, you're going back to the clinton era tax raites, which is 4 cents on the dollar. >> congressman van hollen, thank you for your time. we'll see what happens next. thank you, sir. >>> we could s
it wasn't a secret he thought we should have a balanced approach to look at the deficit and higher income individuals need to pay more. if we don't ask, everybody else is hit harder. the president is coming off a victory, and it's very clear that on this specific issue the overwhelming majority of the american people support him. so that's a big difference. as we come to the end of this fiscal cliff, republicans have to choose. do they call for $5 trillion in tax increases over the next ten...
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so i think what the white house is signaling is that at a minimum, any deficit package has to include this immediate february and march debt ceiling that we're going to hit. >> is jack lew the current chief of staff and former budget director the top candidate to be treasury? what is your best guess? >> he appears to be the frontrunner from everything you see and read and hear and he is a -- i've known him a long time. he's an accomplished guy. he knows these issues perfectly. he has worked in the financial community and has a sense of that and vice versa. and so i think he would be a it terrific choice. >> we should say there are a couple other people who have been rumored to being vetted. roger altman, former treasury official, larry fink, be erskine bowles. this what is alan simpson, erskine bowles' partner in the deficit commission, had to say about that possibility last week on the show. >> he said he would be very pleased to do that. he shared that with me personally, as long as they move the treasury department to north carolina, to charlotte. i don't think -- >> he's worked so
so i think what the white house is signaling is that at a minimum, any deficit package has to include this immediate february and march debt ceiling that we're going to hit. >> is jack lew the current chief of staff and former budget director the top candidate to be treasury? what is your best guess? >> he appears to be the frontrunner from everything you see and read and hear and he is a -- i've known him a long time. he's an accomplished guy. he knows these issues perfectly. he...